Post by @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange

Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill @infosec.exchange

More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill @infosec.exchange

If it weren't for the fact that I don't know the first damn thing about starting or running a corp, and it'd liquidate my retirement funds to even start buying infrastructure and hiring people...

Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill @infosec.exchange

Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

rj
@arrjay @tacobelllabs.net

@JessTheUnstill with bonus "can't tell anyone" national security letter

Patrick Georgi
@patrick @retro.social

@RealGene @arrjay @JessTheUnstill Is it even clear yet that warrant canaries are legally functional, and not just an extra line-item on warrants?

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RealGene ☣️
@RealGene @hachyderm.io

@patrick @arrjay @JessTheUnstill

A canary doesn't have to be "legally" anything.

It's a warning that doesn't violate the letter of the double-secret probation.

Patrick Georgi
@patrick @retro.social

@RealGene @arrjay @JessTheUnstill I haven't seen a National Security Letter, so I don't know if it merely says not to tell about it, or not to communicate about it.

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RealGene ☣️
@RealGene @hachyderm.io

@patrick @arrjay @JessTheUnstill

Did you read the linked wiki article?

Patrick Georgi
@patrick @retro.social

@RealGene @arrjay @JessTheUnstill Yes. One paragraph covers folks in IT security who doubt that a canary works.

The next paragraph covers three decisions by the SCOTUS are brought up as argument that it would work, trailed by a very trust inducing "citation needed".

Of those, one is more concerned with the question if the government may forbid speaking (or writing as the case may be) about government material, and apparently there are ways to established enforced enlistment in gov't secrecy, as long as they're by law.

The other two aren't about gag orders at all.

Citation needed, indeed.

Replying to @patrick@retro.social
Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill @infosec.exchange

@patrick @RealGene @arrjay Besides, a small service provider co-op that doesn't seek profit won't be able to afford enough lawyers to take on the secret courts.

RealGene ☣️
@RealGene @hachyderm.io

@JessTheUnstill @patrick @arrjay

…in which case, it doesn't really matter if you disclose the letter, because either way, you're getting renditioned or sent to federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.