Post by @fasnix

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AKingsbury
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@fasnix

Obviously capitalism isn't "natural". neither are eyeglasses; it's a vacuous point.

As to "enforced"; not really, no. Capitalism is respected or not, not "enforced". That would imply that, under #capitalism, no one can practice anything else, which would be an ignorant claim to make.

It's #socialism which requires enforcement. Quite brutal enforcement, as it turns out.

J Lou
@jlou @mastodon.social

@AlexanderKingsbury @fasnix Capitalism requires enforcing employer-employee contracts.

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AKingsbury
@AlexanderKingsbury @mastodon.social

@jlou @fasnix

A. No, it doesn't, because while capitalism ALLOWS employee/employer relationships, it does not REQUIRE them.

B. Even assuming it does require enforcing contracts, that is a contract being enforced, not capitalism being enforced.

J Lou
@jlou @mastodon.social

@AlexanderKingsbury @fasnix You can't have capitalism without employer-employee contracts being enforced.

Not requiring employer-employee contracts doesn't resolve the issues with capitalism. Any employer-employee contract violates the workers' inalienable rights.

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AKingsbury
@AlexanderKingsbury @mastodon.social

@jlou @fasnix

"You can't have capitalism without employer-employee contracts being enforced."

You've made it abundantly clear many times already that you do not grasp the concept of capitalism. You don't need to belabor the point. If you ever want to learn, I'll be here, but I think we both know you're more interested in spouting nonsense.

If you say anything worth responding to, I'll respond, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

J Lou
@jlou @mastodon.social

@AlexanderKingsbury @fasnix

Understanding can be demonstrated by explaining the other person's perspective.

"Capitalism," to you, means private property and markets (including labor) without state regulation .

Almost every pro-capitalist I've come across thinks that it entails workers being able to work for an employer without having any voting rights in the firm they work in. A market economy where workers have protected voting rights in their firms isn't seen as capitalism in most cases.

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Cy
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More importantly, it entails workers agreeing to be employees, and then when they go against their contract, take what they want off the shelves, share it with their buddies, and stop working, they find that it is very, very strongly enforced. No capital could survive without punishment for stealing and refusing to work, whether you agreed to it or not.