Post by @fionescu@mastodon.bsd.cafe

Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

Received my @jolla phone today. After first excitment about the build quality of the device the frustration started... 🧵

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Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

@jolla in the packaging there is a cardboard cover on top of the phone, that talk about privacy and this is your phone.

However, when you first boot, it immediately asks you to create a Jolla account to get access to the Jolla app store, which apparently is required to get Sailfish OS updates.

Why do I need to create an account in order to get OS updates?!

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Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

@jolla okay, let's ignore that for now. This means I can't use the build in app store. How do I install apps? Apperently there's something called OpenRepo. Okay, lets go there. Can I install apps now? No, you first need to install Storeman.

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Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

@jolla so I try to install storeman, which indicates it was successful, but the app icon never shows up anywhere. So I can't open the store. How to debug this? Use the file browser to open the install log. To bad that I don't seem to have a file browser and I can't install one.

Very disappointing first use experience. I wanted a phone that feels more like Linux. Instead I get the same app store BS again that drove me away from Apple and to some extend GrapheneOS.

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Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

@jolla but if I end up installing android apps through the android app support, I might as well upgrade to a Pixel 10 and continue using @GrapheneOS...

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Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

@jolla @GrapheneOS nice! After enabling Developer Mode I can now use the build in terminal to cat the storeman install log. Apparently a linking error!

nothing provides 'libsailfishsecrets.so.0()(64bit)'

I stand corrected. This absolutely is a #linux experience... 😐

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Benedikt Ritter (he/him)
@britter @chaos.social

@jolla @GrapheneOS tried to pkcon refresh but it just hangs at 10% an never completes. Yeah, I think I'm going to return this.

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Raphael
@OmegaPolice @hachyderm.io

@britter @jolla @GrapheneOS What a disappointment. 🫤 Sounds like nobody ever tested the "no account" path?

MΛYΛ
@maya @gs.lexinova.eu

@OmegaPolice @britter @jolla @GrapheneOS graphene don't ask any account but you need 2 or 3 appstore (fdroid, aurora store (playstore)).

The only downside is the lack of "official" (from bank as graphene often fix their crappy security control so the app load) support for bank, state

I hope Motorola to lobby hard for graphene support in the EU level

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fionescu(1)
@fionescu @mastodon.bsd.cafe

@maya @OmegaPolice @britter @jolla @GrapheneOS Instead of F-Droid you can use Obtainium for F-Droid apps and other stuff. Aurora Store isn't entirely wise to use.

MΛYΛ
@maya @gs.lexinova.eu

@fionescu @OmegaPolice @britter @jolla @GrapheneOS obtainium will crowdsource from github (and since one of my goal is to increase sovereinty using Microslop product is a hard no).

but that don't change the need of multiple store anyway

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fionescu(1)
@fionescu @mastodon.bsd.cafe

@maya @OmegaPolice @britter @jolla @GrapheneOS obtainium sources from anything it can source and you want to, f-droid included. that the majority of FOSS is still being hosted on github is not the fault of obtainium. and how is trusting a single app store a necessarily desirable thing in the era of chain supply attacks?