Post by @fd0

Elena Rossini 🌈
@_elena @mastodon.social

Does anyone have any insights / scoops about the upcoming #EUKidsAct, set to be introduced this Thursday to "age gate" access to social media platforms across the EU? (Thus forcing every citizen to upload their government ID to establish their age)

I'm super worried about the impact on the #OpenSocialWeb and the Fediverse in particular.

🔗 : politico.eu/article/eu-to-prop

I wish they would share a clear description of the platforms affected by this legislation.

#privacy #AgeVerification #EUBigTech

Patrick Leavy
@patrickleavy @mastodon.social

@_elena urgh... Is there any way to do #ageverification privately and securely? It doesn't look like it.

Didn't the EU's solution get hacked on day one?

@patrickleavy @_elena

Valve (Steam) achieved age verification in the UK by requiring a credit card. Because to have a credit card you have to be a certain age

help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/

this doesn't completely answer your question, but it collapses the need for another privacy disclosure. the credit card company knew before, it still knows, but no one else does

but of course, now your credit card is exposed for another potential data breach

Elena Rossini 🌈
@_elena @mastodon.social

@benroyce @patrickleavy ooooh interesting! thanks Ben

@_elena@mastodon.social @benroyce @patrickleavy

Here in The Netherlands we have a means to share attributes anonymously. This used to be the IRMA app, but has been renamed to @yivi_privacybydesign@mastodon.nl and works like a charm. I am sure people involved in that project can give details if that can
be rolled out EU wide.
It is a shame too few people use it

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francois
@francois
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@fd0 @_elena@mastodon.social @yivi_privacybydesign@mastodon.nl

This is brilliant !!!
I think not many people use it because they have not heard about it.
We need to give them more exposure.
I'll start with rigging an automatic post every month on some of my accounts. Hopefully this will help.
I haven't downloaded the app yet, but I hope it works outside the NL as well.

Edit 😰😰
download the free Yivi app, choose a PIN, enter your email, and collect your (Dutch citizen) data via DigiD.
So much for people outside of NL

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@francois
The concept is cool, and it works for my tiny country, i know.
Perhaps the Privacy by Design Foundations @yivi_privacybydesign@mastodon.nl / @bjacobs@social.edu.nl could comment on the status of any international use!

@_elena@mastodon.social

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francois
@francois

@fd0 @yivi_privacybydesign@mastodon.nl @bjacobs@social.edu.nl @_elena@mastodon.social

well it seem to rely on the info stored about Dutch citizen in a place called DigID, so unless other countries have something similar, it won't work.

I know my governement (like most) has plenty of data about me, but that is not available to 3rd parties.
The only thing we have ( I guess it's a start) is a single authentication system which is valid for everything, and by everything, I mean everything - not only governement, but banks, etc.
But it only says I'm me.
It is nice, but at the same time it is a single point of failure, which is never good.

That said, there is a project of EU-wide digital ID - presumably this will be stored by each governement so such a database will probably be available.

I think the Privacy by Design Foundations @yivi_privacybydesign@mastodon.nl / @bjacobs@social.edu.nl would be well inspired to start lobbying now, knowing how slowly the wheels of EU usually move 😀