Post by @globcoco@mamot.fr
So here’s the thing. My entire life is on Proton: email, calendar, documents, VPN, all my passwords, all my ID, all my important data.
My annual subscription is up at the end of January.
If they don’t oust Andy Yen by then, I’m out. The question is where?
Infomaniak seems to offer most of what Proton does but they also use AI.
What other options are there? I’m seeing people suggesting email alternatives. But I need a whole lot more than that.
@clacksee For the email + calendar side, Tuta (formerly Tutanota, German, open-source) is solid: end-to-end encrypted email, calendar, and contacts, all encrypted by default. If you want something broader with a drive too, Infomaniak kSuite is a Swiss alternative — email, calendar, drive, contacts, videoconferencing.
@globcoco True, Infomaniak does use AI, but in a completely different way from Proton: it’s optional, hosted only in Switzerland, and not used for training. If you’d rather avoid it altogether, Tuta has publicly stated that it won’t add cloud-based AI to its email client, and as far as I know the same goes for Tuta Drive. Posteo, as far as I know, doesn’t offer any AI features either. As for cloud storage, it depends on what you need.
Eurio is not opt out. It is very much present.
And does weird thing (like a blob appears and blocks everything)...
I have been with them for 10 years now.
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@globcoco Honestly I might have this wrong, I only use Infomaniak for SwissTransfer and kPaste, nothing that needs an account. I’d been wanting to leave Proton for a while because it kept cosying up to US politics, and when all this blew up I had a read through Infomaniak’s docs. They say Euria is optional, runs in Switzerland and isn’t used for training, and that you can switch the assistant off in Mail and kDrive.
I use email, calendar, kdrive, I have my domains there and I used to use Kmeet too.
I don't see how Eurio is opt out.
I really feel AI is a big part in their business now so even if they say that (Proton did too), not sure anymore that it is trustworthy
@globcoco No idea if that gets rid of that pop-up though, and after ten years you know it far better than I do. I’m moving my important stuff to Posteo (account’s open, cash goes in the post this afternoon) and I’ve been on Tuta for ages and love it. As far as I know neither has AI, so they might be worth a look if Euria keeps getting in your way.