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david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone

the tech industry fervor over Omarchy is so fucking confusing to me that i'm honestly starting to wonder if it's just money laundering. over TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS for a fascist's dotfiles and bash scripts is patently insane

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david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone
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the fact that this shit now has an entire foundation, conference, corporate sponsorships, and merch proves that the tech industry is just a never-ending series of grifts in a trench coat

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[MARX_IN_SPACE]
@otherdog @mastodon.social

@davidcelis Agreed, it’s depressing to witness. Just very very wealthy people throwing their money around congratulating each other over essentially nothing.

clew
@clew @ecoevo.social

Startup LARPinv with a side of PAC, or the other way around?

@otherdog @davidcelis

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MaddieM4
@MaddieM4 @raphus.social

@davidcelis it does feel as if some people with bad politics (but a taste for free stuff) found issue with the reality that desktop Linux was a social warrior project, and are taking panicked corrective steps to "fix" it.

Richard Levitte
@levitte @mastodon.nu

@MaddieM4 @davidcelis
I wonder what Linus himself would think about the attribution "social warrior project"...

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Oscar Bazaldua
@oscb @hachyderm.io

@davidcelis it’s insane and never saw it coming.
I feel at the beginning everyone was making fun of how useless it was and suddenly I’m swamped with “coder influencers” saying it’s the second coming of christ

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Mariusz
@mariusz @mastodon.design

@oscb @davidcelis it’s so obviously astroturfed too, suddenly every dev influencer uses it and thinks it’s “reinventing personal computers” or some shit like this

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Drew DeVault
@drew @social.freebitcoin.gay

@davidcelis a lot of people were waiting for an excuse to funnel money into fascism in open source, and DHH created an institution for this purpose

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Mike Fraser
@mike @thecanadian.social

@davidcelis Dude I just install Debian and proceed to actually use the computer.

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david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone
Hello David, 
 
Thank you for reaching out and sharing your questions and concerns about our decision to become a corporate patron of the Omacom Foundation. We value the relationship we have with you, and we want to respond thoughtfully and openly about the purpose of this commitment and how we're approaching it at 1Password.
 
At 1Password, we support developer and open-source communities because they're an important part of the ecosystem our customers rely on. We have a long history of supporting open source projects, including the Linux, Rails, and Rust Foundations. We chose to support Omarchy because it is a growing Linux environment that developers use and value, and because 1Password already had a meaningful presence in that community.
 
Contributing to the Omacom Foundation is intended to support hosting infrastructure and provides stable, long-term funding for the upstream open-source projects and maintainers on which Omarchy depends.
 
We recognize that Omarchy is closely associated with its founder, and that raises questions about what our support means. Our contribution is made to the Omacom Foundation, not to an individual, and is not an endorsement of any individual's personal or political views. 1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views.
 
The patronage is also separate from product decisions. It includes no requirements or guarantees related to product placement, exclusivity, endorsement, or roadmap influence.
 
We understand that this explanation may not change how you feel about our decision. We take all feedback seriously and share it with the appropriate teams.
Our commitment to the security and privacy of our customers remains unchanged.
 
We're grateful for the trust you place in 1Password.
Hello David, Thank you for reaching out and sharing your questions and concerns about our decision to become a corporate patron of the Omacom Foundation. We value the relationship we have with you, and we want to respond thoughtfully and openly about the purpose of this commitment and how we're approaching it at 1Password. At 1Password, we support developer and open-source communities because they're an important part of the ecosystem our customers rely on. We have a long history of supporting open source projects, including the Linux, Rails, and Rust Foundations. We chose to support Omarchy because it is a growing Linux environment that developers use and value, and because 1Password already had a meaningful presence in that community. Contributing to the Omacom Foundation is intended to support hosting infrastructure and provides stable, long-term funding for the upstream open-source projects and maintainers on which Omarchy depends. We recognize that Omarchy is closely associated with its founder, and that raises questions about what our support means. Our contribution is made to the Omacom Foundation, not to an individual, and is not an endorsement of any individual's personal or political views. 1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views. The patronage is also separate from product decisions. It includes no requirements or guarantees related to product placement, exclusivity, endorsement, or roadmap influence. We understand that this explanation may not change how you feel about our decision. We take all feedback seriously and share it with the appropriate teams. Our commitment to the security and privacy of our customers remains unchanged. We're grateful for the trust you place in 1Password.
While I appreciate getting a response to this, even if it is corporate boilerplate, I am incredibly disappointed in said response. If you actually cared about contributions and funding to upstream projects and components in the Linux ecosystem, you could have simply donated money to any of those upstream projects (such as Arch Linux itself), or even something like OpenCollective, and it would have had much more of an impact. Instead, you chose to commit $300,000 to Omarchy (a glorified set of dotfiles and hyprland configurations that provide nothing of substance back to Linux itself) and become its first corporate sponsor that is not simply one of DHH's other companies. To claim that this decision is because you "support developer and open-source communities" is honestly insulting, given Omarchy's creator DHH is independently wealthy and could easily fund his vanity project himself.

Furthermore, to suggest that Omarchy/Omacom is merely "closely associated" with its founder is simply absurd. Omacom has no published board, no publicly available information about how (or even if) it was incorporated, and the only known member is DHH himself, a darling of the growing fascist movement in the tech industry who has now written racist diatribes calling for ethnic cleansing in Europe multiple times in the last several years. You cannot separate a founder's beliefs from the mission of their foundations or companies, and Omarchy and its foundation provide a new way for him to gain relevance and grow his platform, something that can only lead to the spread of more hatred. Your donation fuels this and has permanently damaged your company's reputation.

As for the waning trust I placed in 1Password, there's no longer anything for you to be grateful for: it has now completely evaporated, I will continue to evaluate alternatives for an export of my 1Password account before my next billing cycle, and I will be recommending that every person I know to do the same for their personal and corporate accounts.
While I appreciate getting a response to this, even if it is corporate boilerplate, I am incredibly disappointed in said response. If you actually cared about contributions and funding to upstream projects and components in the Linux ecosystem, you could have simply donated money to any of those upstream projects (such as Arch Linux itself), or even something like OpenCollective, and it would have had much more of an impact. Instead, you chose to commit $300,000 to Omarchy (a glorified set of dotfiles and hyprland configurations that provide nothing of substance back to Linux itself) and become its first corporate sponsor that is not simply one of DHH's other companies. To claim that this decision is because you "support developer and open-source communities" is honestly insulting, given Omarchy's creator DHH is independently wealthy and could easily fund his vanity project himself. Furthermore, to suggest that Omarchy/Omacom is merely "closely associated" with its founder is simply absurd. Omacom has no published board, no publicly available information about how (or even if) it was incorporated, and the only known member is DHH himself, a darling of the growing fascist movement in the tech industry who has now written racist diatribes calling for ethnic cleansing in Europe multiple times in the last several years. You cannot separate a founder's beliefs from the mission of their foundations or companies, and Omarchy and its foundation provide a new way for him to gain relevance and grow his platform, something that can only lead to the spread of more hatred. Your donation fuels this and has permanently damaged your company's reputation. As for the waning trust I placed in 1Password, there's no longer anything for you to be grateful for: it has now completely evaporated, I will continue to evaluate alternatives for an export of my 1Password account before my next billing cycle, and I will be recommending that every person I know to do the same for their personal and corporate accounts.

i got the boilerplate response from 1Password. here's my follow-up

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david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone

and yes, i know i said "simply" thrice. please do not @ me or my family during these trying times.

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david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone

even the mainstream tech media has started to pick this up theverge.com/tech/988536/1pass

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david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone
An email from David to 1Password's support:

"Based on the responses from your CEO and cofounder that have been published on The Verge, as promised, I've now cancelled my account. Your company's support for this man is disgusting and abhorrent and you'll not get any further money from me, nor will I ever again recommend 1Password to any family, friends, acquaintances, or colleagues."

After the text is a screenshot confirming his account cancellation
An email from David to 1Password's support: "Based on the responses from your CEO and cofounder that have been published on The Verge, as promised, I've now cancelled my account. Your company's support for this man is disgusting and abhorrent and you'll not get any further money from me, nor will I ever again recommend 1Password to any family, friends, acquaintances, or colleagues." After the text is a screenshot confirming his account cancellation

Based on the responses from 1Password's CEO and cofounder, they're not likely to change course, so I've cancelled my account.

If you still have time left on your billing cycle to find an alternative and export your data, there's no reason to wait to cancel; speak with your dollars.

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cprey
@cprey @mstdn.party

@davidcelis FFS - I just moved from the the OTHER oppressive, insecure overlord. BitWarden? Proton?

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Ingo
@lasombra_br @mas.to

@cprey @davidcelis I’m finding Proton very stable and usable.

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McNeely
@McNeely @indieweb.social

@davidcelis this has been the *very first* mention I have seen of DHH's descent into full blown extremism from the main stream media. Finally!

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Ingo
@lasombra_br @mas.to

@davidcelis the blatant bullshit excuse “we want to support opensource communities” needs to be called out.

Why not donate to any other projects? Why now, after so many years of just dunking on them?

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Glyph
@glyph @mastodon.social

@davidcelis dhh is the jia tan of fundraising 0xcc.io/posts/omarchy-root-cre

:: Asta :: [New Server]
@aud @spectre.asta.lgbt

@glyph @davidcelis hey now; Jia Tan is a fucking legend and that exploit took some real skill to get in there.  Let’s not insult a real one, here…

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SnoopJ
@SnoopJ @hachyderm.io

@davidcelis @glyph can you really put a price on trivial eval() injection vulnerabilities

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Rob Ricci
@ricci @discuss.systems

@SnoopJ @davidcelis @glyph this is probably how they got the money

Rob Ricci
@ricci @discuss.systems

@SnoopJ @davidcelis @glyph brb renaming all my wifi SSIDs "give Rob monies"

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Maxi 12x 💉
@frumble @chaos.social
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@davidcelis @glyph I think it’s ultimately about alignment of the wider liberal FLOSS world to fascist tech bros’ ideology.

chaos.social/@frumble/11717644

#Omacron #Omarchy

Maxi 12x 💉 @frumble@chaos.social

… to projects where it’s actually going to benefit people.“

Sure, if you ignore the consequences of making your project funding, maybe your salaries and financing of new professional project contributors directly dependent on the whims of the #Omacon Foundation and #DHH, that might sound like a splendid idea.

Their long-term strategy might actually be to align the liberal FLOSS ecosystem to their fascist motifs. To suffocate opposition.

@BrodieOnLinux

#Omarchy

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Mariusz
@mariusz @mastodon.design

@frumble @davidcelis @glyph are they even planning on contributing upstream? looks like they aren’t

Maxi 12x 💉
@frumble @chaos.social

@mariusz Have you seen Brodie’s video? See my quoted thread.

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Maxi 12x 💉
@frumble @chaos.social

@davidcelis @glyph It’s an easy mistake to assume the mini-oligarchs are sponsoring just #Omarchy. But they are donating to the #Omacon Foundation under DHH’s control, which will decide where to seed this whole pile of money in the ecosystem. See Brodie’s video in my quoted thread.

Also like @dukeboitans has said about the money laundering hypothesis:

mas.to/@dukeboitans/1171924558

Bad News Nobody @dukeboitans@mas.to

@davidcelis those donors are billionaires, they don't need to launder a bunch of millions. This is just part of the culture war.

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Maya Granade
@kevingranade @mastodon.gamedev.place

@davidcelis gee it almost seems like it's some kind of money laundering thing.

david celis
@davidcelis @xoxo.zone

@kevingranade you mean… like i said in the post…?

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Maya Granade
@kevingranade @mastodon.gamedev.place

@davidcelis attempting to agree and phrasing it in the worst way possible, sorry.

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Tess
@Tsluijter @mastodon.social

@davidcelis meanwhile I'm lost, where the heck this thing suddenly came from and why it's talked about so much. I have been truly living under a rock, because I see 10 months ago there was controverse about Framework sponsoring them.

crimier.github.io/posts/Framew

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ShadSterling
@ShadSterling @mastodon.social

@davidcelis … so how much can I get for my dotfiles? How ‘bout my dotfiles and helpers in ~/bin ?

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Matt Hall
@401matthall @mastodon.xyz

@davidcelis

WTF is Omarchy?

...

Hang on... I can google...

Oh...

What the...

Why?

Fuck these guys.

What a bunch of fuck'n tossers.

Does anybody even try anymore?

`Da Elf
@elfin @mstdn.social

@401matthall @davidcelis You made me google Omarchy and now I want to shoot up an arsenic and cyanide cocktail.

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Bad News Nobody
@dukeboitans @mas.to

@davidcelis those donors are billionaires, they don't need to launder a bunch of millions. This is just part of the culture war.

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Zach
@zbray @mastodon.social

@davidcelis youtube has been flooded lately with omarchy videos and it makes it so easy to play whackamole with the block button.

David Culley
@davidculley @hachyderm.io

@zbray Which blocker do you use/recommend?

Zach
@zbray @mastodon.social

@davidculley i just use the “don’t recommend” button on youtube (unfortunaately there is no true blocking feature) and then try to find them here/bluesky and block manually.

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@davidcelis it's a small price to pay for a honeypot to catch all the fasc-curious Linux fanbois. My money is on them turning this into a nerd "active club"

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larry fucking LOVES kde
@larrythecow @wetdry.world

@davidcelis it's twelve now?

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Ariadne, bunyote friend :therian:
@ariadne @treehouse.systems

@davidcelis how in the heck? basically nobody gives alpine money and it is the backbone of the modern internet, but some vanity distro gets $12m?

do you have any idea what foundational distros like alpine could do with $12m? it would be game changing.

SackOfBones (any/all)
@sackofbones @kolektiva.social

@ariadne
It's because fascists give money to fascists. Also I did not know that alpine is the backbone of the modern internet, but it completely makes sense. I've had only good experiences with it
@davidcelis

fionescu(1)
@fionescu @bsd.cafe

@sackofbones @ariadne @davidcelis Alpine is the gold standard of Docker base images

Janne Moren
@jannem @fosstodon.org

@ariadne @davidcelis
But giving money to Alpine doesn't promote a political agenda. All it does is help lots of people you don't know personally. Obvious waste of money.

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Ariadne, bunyote friend :therian:
@ariadne @treehouse.systems

@davidcelis @jannem is that not the marketed purpose of philanthropy though?

Janne Moren
@jannem @fosstodon.org

@ariadne @davidcelis
Philanthropy is not what is happening here

LisPi
@lispi314 @udongein.xyz
@ariadne @davidcelis @jannem Better when you can misuse the target and embezzle the donation back. (Or so I presume it goes.)
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fionescu(1)
@fionescu @bsd.cafe
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@jannem I have to inform you that Alpine is on the long list of distros that Lunduke-heads decry as being "woke"

delta :akko_bean: :verified_gay:
@delta @mk.absturztau.be

@ariadne@social.treehouse.systems @davidcelis@xoxo.zone $12 million is a lot of money, that is so much money that even if it was split up evenly between 100 different OSS projects it still would've been a world changing amount of money for each of them, when most non-corpo FOSS projects operate on budgets measured in toothpicks and pennies even just a couple digits in a single donation is already huge, a full $12m is unimaginable

but no throw it all down the toilet into some fascist vanity distro where it'll make a difference to approximately nobody of value ig, great job society

Thomas Depierre
@Di4na @hachyderm.io

@ariadne @davidcelis i keep pointing out that a 1m per year team over a decade working on... Idk basic build system made fo hobbyist maintainers needs would massively impact the quality and security of everything.

And they give 12M to ... Fucknut and his fascists friends for a few dotfiles.

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Bitan Nath
@bitanath @mastodon.social

@davidcelis lmao wait what who’s the fascist… i too am willing to sell my dotfiles and am 100x fascism for the low low price of just €1M :welp: :smug:

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M⑨ddie
@mjdxp @labyrinth.zone
@davidcelis oh god, i just looked this up, is this a linux distro that's just full of AI bullshit
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M⑨ddie
@mjdxp @labyrinth.zone
@davidcelis wtf does "opinionated linux" mean
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Kirby
@kirby @freerobuxextremist.com
@mjdxp @davidcelis a distro which has a hard favor towards a set of opinions the author holds. there's opinionated this and that for everything. it's always very pretentious
M⑨ddie
@mjdxp @labyrinth.zone
@kirby @davidcelis makes me want to try it out and replace basically everything in it because i think my opinions are better than the opinions of whoever made this
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David Culley
@davidculley @hachyderm.io

@davidcelis All the videos accompanying #Omarchy with titles like "They finally fixed Linux" … 🤮